Archived Message board responses
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 Question: Posted by Alicia Large, Pharm.D. on March 07, 2001 at 10:22:59:

Why do you list an expiration date of 1 day for fluconazole if it is transferred? Do you know where you received this information? Thanks

 Responses: Posted by D. McAuley on March 07, 2001 at 12:54:03:

Micromedex
IV Compatibility Report for the following 2 products:
� Dextrose 5% in Water
� Fluconazole
When mixed in solution:
Dextrose 5% in Water and Fluconazole are compatible.
� The products are physically compatible for at least 20 to 24 hrs and Fluconazole is chemically stable at 25 degrees C in PVC containers
� The products are physically compatible for at least 20 to 24 hrs in ethylene vinyl acetate containers at room temperature.
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Posted by Alicia Large, Pharm.D. on March 08, 2001 at 15:30:45:  FYI: I contacted Pfizer.
They faxed me info from a study at the University of Texas.
They removed 100mg amounts from 200 mg premixed Viaflex Diflucan bags.
They did stability testing on the Diflucan remaining in the Viaflex.
This data suggest that removal of a dose does not affect the stability
or sterility of the remaining Diflucan in sodium chloride diluent for at least 7 days. Also, I know of a couple institutions that use 7 days as their expiration date
when splitting Diflucan doses from these bags. So I assume this is where they are getting that from.

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Posted by ***D. McAuley *** on March 08, 2001 at 15:41:52: Thanks for the info! .... This is one of the reasons I started this format. An open exchange is great for solving problems... I will change the notation in the dilution list...

 Question: Posted by Susan Lang on March 06, 2001 at 11:50:32:

With oral neomycin no longer avaiable what is the receommended pre-op antibiotic for bowel surgery.
Thanks

 Responses: Posted by D. McAuley on March 06, 2001 at 12:42:44:  I was not aware of this... We currently are not facing any problems with availability of neomycin at our institution. There has been studies which have replaced erythromycin base with metronidazole, however I am not aware of any studies which have replaced neomycin. My only suggestion would be attempt a medline search using the program I have set up on this site:
If I find additional info I will post it here..
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A superficial search produced the following studies:

Am J Surg 1986 Apr;151(4):437-42
Oral neomycin and erythromycin compared with single-dose systemic metronidazole and ceftriaxone prophylaxis in elective colorectal surgery.
Weaver M, Burdon DW, Youngs DJ, Keighley MR

A prospective randomized trial was performed to compare oral neomycin and erythromycin with single-dose intravenous metronidazole and ceftriaxone in elective colorectal surgery. The study was discontinued after 60 patients were entered. The overall rate of infection was 41 percent in the oral neomycin and erythromycin group (n = 29) compared with 9.6 percent in those who received intravenous metronidazole and ceftriaxone (n = 31) (p less than 0.01). Infections in the oral group were principally due to resistant Staphylococcus aureus, Bacteroides fragilis, and Escherichia coli. Preoperative administration of oral neomycin and erythromycin was associated with a significant reduction of Escherichia coli counts (1 X 10(7) to 3 X 10(5) organisms/ml, p less than 0.05) compared with the intravenous group, but there was no significant reduction in the counts of Bacteroides fragilis (2 X 10(8) to 1 X 10(7) organisms/ml) and there was an increase in the counts of Clostridia (2 X 10(4) to 1 X 10(6) organisms/ml). These results indicate that single-dose systemic prophylaxis with appropriate antibiotics is superior to oral neomycin and erythromycin.
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Rev Infect Dis 1991 Sep-Oct;13 Suppl 10:S815-20
Antimicrobial prophylaxis for appendectomy and colorectal surgery.
Gorbach SL
Department of Community Health and Medicine, Tufts University School of Medicine, Boston, Massachusetts 02111.

Current opinion favors the use of antimicrobial prophylaxis in all operations for acute appendicitis. In clinical trials with placebo controls, the reduction in the rate of postoperative infectious complications is most apparent in perforated and/or gangrenous appendicitis, but benefits are also seen in nonperforated appendicitis and even in those with a normal appendix. In elective colorectal operations, it has been established that all patients should receive prophylactic antibiotics. The choices are an oral bowel preparation consisting of neomycin or kanamycin combined with erythromycin or metronidazole; a parenteral antimicrobial drug such as cefoxitin or cefotetan; or a combined oral/parenteral regimen. Risk factors for postoperative wound infection include a prolonged duration of surgery (greater than 3.5 hours) and rectal resection. The most popular prophylactic regimen employed by American surgeons, particularly in the presence of adverse risk factors, is oral neomycin/erythromycin along with a short course (one to three doses) of a systemic cephalosporin active against anaerobes.
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Br J Surg 1988 Aug;75(8):782-5
Prophylactic antibiotics in elective colorectal surgery.
Lau WY, Chu KW, Poon GP, Ho KK
Government Surgical Unit, Queen Mary Hospital, Hong Kong.
A randomized prospective study was conducted on 194 patients who underwent elective colorectal surgery for carcinoma. All patients received the same mechanical bowel preparation. In addition, patients in group A received oral neomycin and erythromycin base; patients in group B received systemic metronidazole and gentamicin, while patients in group C received both oral and systemic antibiotics. Postoperative septic complications related to colorectal surgery occurred in 27.4 per cent, 11.9 per cent and 12.3 per cent respectively in groups A, B and C (chi 2 = 7; P less than 0.05). The incidence of sepsis in groups B and C was almost identical. Patients who received oral antibiotics alone (group A) had significantly higher risks of postoperative sepsis when compared with patients in either group B or group C (P less than 0.05). As there is no additional advantage of combining oral and systemic antibiotics, we recommend systemic metronidazole and gentamicin to be used with mechanical bowel preparation in elective colorectal surgery.

 Question: Posted by j. cecil on March 04, 2001 at 14:28:59:

Please help explain diluting drugs. If I want to give 1 mg of versed and the vial I have contains 5mg/ml how do I dilute this so that final concentration contains 1mg/ml? Please include formula used and explanation. Thanks.

 Responses: Posted by . on March 04, 2001 at 15:48:11:  Instead of diluting the vial you could give 0.2 ml of a 5 mg/ml solution and this would give you 1 mg. If you want to dilute it, use a simple ratio. You need 1 mg/ml, and you have 5 mg/ml which is a 1:5 ratio, therefore take 1 ml of the 5 mg/ml solution and dilute it with 4 ml (this is the same as 1 part out of 5). The total volume will be 5ml, and the final concentration will be 5 mg/5 ml or 1 mg/ml. Here is another example: you have 25 mg/ml of aminophylline and you need 10 mg/ml. The ratio is 10/25 or 2/5. Using this ratio you would take 2 ml of 25mg/ml of aminophylline and add 3 ml. This will create a solution that contains 50mg/ 5ml which is 10mg/ml.
 Question: Posted by MichRph on February 28, 2001 at 20:03:25:

P&T is considering adding the direct thrombin inhibitor bivalirudin(Angiomax) for use in PCI.
Any good studies out there for review. Only found a few. As far as thrombin inhibs go much safer than hirudin;
but justified as a formulary addition? Any insight?

 Responses: Posted by D. McAuley on February 28, 2001 at 23:00:53:

Bivalirudin looks like a promising replacement for heparin in this setting. Currently its only FDA approved indication is in treating patients with unstable angina who are undergoing percutaneous transluminal coronary angioplasty. A statement released by the company revealed the following: Clinical studies of Angiomax in more than 4,000 patients with new onset angina, angina at rest, or with accelerating episodes of the condition showed a 22% sustained decrease in the risk of death, MI or revascularization compared with patients on heparin. There still is a lack of studies comparing other therapies. Here is an abstract from a journal as early as August of 2000 revealing the scarcity of studies:
Nemergut C, Cheng JW. Use of direct thrombin inhibitors in acute coronary syndrome. Clin Ther 2000 Aug;22(8):937-48; discussion 898.

Arnold & Marie Schwartz College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences, Long Island University, Brooklyn, New York, USA.

OBJECTIVE: This paper examines the rationale for using direct thrombin inhibitors in the management of acute coronary syndrome (ACS). BACKGROUND: With traditional management of ACS using aspirin and unfractionated heparin (UH), refractory angina and new myocardial infarction (MI) continue to develop. Growing understanding of the pathophysiology of ACS has led to the search for more effective therapies directed toward preventing formation of fibrin- and platelet-rich thrombi in the coronary arteries. Current pharmacologic approaches include use of direct thrombin inhibitors (lepirudin, desirudin, and bivalirudin). METHODS: We reviewed all published clinical trials abstracted in MEDLINE from 1966 to April 2000, excluding pilot studies enrolling <500 patients. RESULTS: Use of lepirudin at medium doses (0.4-mg/kg bolus + 0.15 mg/kg/h) resulted in lower rates of death, new MI, and refractory angina at 7 days compared with UH (3.0% vs 6.5%; P = 0.047), although the incidence of minor bleeding was increased (7.6% vs 4.5%; P < 0.05). Bivalirudin was as effective as UH in preventing complications after percutaneous coronary intervention (11.4% vs 12.2%; NS) and carried a lower bleeding risk (7.8% vs 19.2%; NS); however, its use in the management of ACS has not been studied. Desirudin used at low doses (0.1-mg/kg bolus + 0.1 mg/kg/h) in large-scale clinical trials in patients with acute MI treated with alteplase or streptokinase appeared to be at least as effective as UH (8.9% vs 9.8% at 30 days; NS). However, its therapeutic index was narrow, since it was associated with significantly more moderate bleeding (8.8% vs 7.7%; P < 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: All clinical trials to date have studied relatively short-term use (3-5 days) of direct thrombin inhibitors, and long-term benefits on morbidity and mortality have not been demonstrated. Until further data are available, direct thrombin inhibitors should be restricted to use as a possible alternative in patients who require anticoagulant therapy but experience UH-induced thrombocytopenia.

Here is a study (abstract) that strengthens the argument of heparin's inadequacies:

Bates SM, Weitz JI. The mechanism of action of thrombin inhibitors. J Invasive Cardiol 2000 Dec;12 Suppl F:27F-32
Department of Medicine, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

Although heparin is widely used to treat arterial thrombosis, it has limitations in this setting. These limitations reflect heparin's inability to inactivate fibrin-bound thrombin, a major stimulus for thrombus growth, and the fact that heparin is neutralized by platelet factor 4, large quantities of which are released from platelets at the site of plaque rupture. Heparin also has a propensity to bind non-specifically to other plasma proteins. Because plasma levels of these heparin-binding proteins vary from patient to patient, the anticoagulant response to heparin is unpredictable and careful laboratory monitoring is necessary to ensure that an adequate anticoagulant effect is achieved. Direct thrombin inhibitors, such as bivalirudin and hirudin, overcome many of the limitations of heparin. These agents inhibit fibrin-bound thrombin, as well as fluid-phase thrombin. Direct thrombin inhibitors also produce a more predictable anticoagulant response than heparin because they do not bind to plasma proteins and are not neutralized by platelet factor 4. Bivalirudin appears to have a wider therapeutic window than hirudin. Because this may permit administration of higher doses of bivalirudin, this agent may also have an efficacy advantage over hirudin. Differences observed between hirudin and bivalirudin demonstrate that not all direct thrombin inhibitors have the same risk-benefit profile.

And finally, a link to the press release for Angiomax.

 Question: Posted by Bob DeVore on February 23, 2001 at 16:40:26:

Dave, ever heard of freezing oral solutions for later use in off site locations? Thinking about using reconstituted oral antibiotics in unit-of-use containers (ie. oral syringes) and freezing them to be used at a later date in the ER. Would also need stability info for frozen expiration date and stability after microwaving (?) in order to administer the dose. We currently recon and send a whole multi dose container of oral antibiotic solution and send the whole thing to the ER for each patient. thanks, Bob DeVore

 Responses: Posted by D. McAuley on February 23, 2001 at 19:17:54: Bob, we currently do not have any guidelines set up for the freezing of oral antibiotics. Many of the oral antibiotics have what I call a non-linear stability curve. Favorable stability exists within a specific range of temperatures. Here is an example (abstract for an amoxicillin study):

Am J Hosp Pharm 1986 Dec;43(12):3027-30
Stability of aqueous solutions of amoxicillin sodium in the frozen and liquid states.

Concannon J, Lovitt H, Ramage M, Tai LH, McDonald C, Sunderland VB

The stability of aqueous admixtures of amoxicillin sodium in both the liquid and frozen (solid) states was studied. Admixtures of amoxicillin sodium were prepared in sterile water for injection to a theoretical concentration of 10 mg/mL. For each experimental run, 2-mL aliquots of the admixture were placed in stoppered glass volumetric flasks and stored at temperatures ranging from 19.5 degrees C to -30 degrees C; 16 flasks were stored at each temperature. After equilibration for approximately 20 minutes, duplicate flasks at each temperature were removed from storage conditions for time-zero assay. Subsequently, duplicate flasks were assayed at various times, depending on the storage temperature, for up to 13 days or until more than 80% of the drug had degraded. All samples were assayed at least in duplicate using high-performance liquid chromatography. When amoxicillin solutions were in the liquid state (at temperatures between 19.5 and 0 degrees C), the time required for the amoxicillin concentration to decrease to 90% of its initial value (t90) increased as temperature decreased. However, between 0 degree C and -7 degrees C, the t90 of frozen solutions decreased from two days to 1.08 hours. As temperature declined further, the rate of degradation decreased until the solution was completely frozen; at -30 degrees C, the t90 had increased to 13 days. Amoxicillin sodium is unstable in aqueous solutions stored between 0 degrees C and -20 degrees C. If admixtures of this drug are to be frozen for later use, the storage temperature should be below -30 degrees C.

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If you need to set up a program for specific antibiotics, I would start with a medline search (use the Medline search program on this web).....enter something like: antibiotic freezing or antibiotic storage etc. If you are unable to find what you are looking for, occasionally the manufacturer may have some recommendations. Hope this helps..

Posted by D. McAuley on February 23, 2001 at 21:14:01:On second thought, why complicate a simple process. I think the best way to accomplish this is not to reconstitute the antibiotics. Break up the doses into 250 or 500mg aliquots or whatever, and place into small unit of use plastic containers with a screw-on top (we currently use these in our outpatient methadone clinic). Create some batch labels with reconstitution information and storage requirements and your done�. What do you think�.

 Question: Posted by MichiganRPh on February 15, 2001 at 16:22:26:

Bracing for a possible nation-wide succinylcholine shortage, what are other institutions planning on using for rapid-sequence intubation?

 Responses: Posted by D. McAuley on February 15, 2001 at 23:44:38:I was not aware of the impending shortage. Currently, there has not been any reports sent to the FDA (see link below).The only viable alternative would be mivacron. It has a similar onset and short duration of action. Zemuron has a similar onset, however has a much longer duration of action. What do you think?

Posted by Michiganrph on February 17, 2001 at 07:11:09:Although I I agree with the choice of mivacurium or possibly rocuronium, I think for the needs of rapid-sequence intubation I feel rapacuronium might be the best choice. Rap had a quicker onset of action and shorter duration when compared in a study. As far as the shortage, that was just the word up here in Flint. Any additional coments appreciated.

Posted by D. McAuley on February 17, 2001 at 10:31:37: You are right, this is another possibility. I am including a link to some studies. It may take a little while to load (size: @ 90 kb).Comparisons

Question Posted by abdulhamid on February 09, 2001 at 08:43:13:

hello every body,
I need to know what the reason behind using low protein filter as I found two unexplained reasonone is because abciximab is a protein drug that may aggregate  the second reason is to prevent thrombocytopenia any help will be grateful
thank you

Responses: Posted by D. McAuley on February 09, 2001 at 14:21:48:

ReoPro is a protein solution and has the potential to form fine, translucent proteinaceous particles over the shelf life of the product. Filtration with either a 0.2 or 0.22 micron filter should remove any fine translucent particles, and should be performed as a routine precaution during dosage preparation. As stated in the prescribing information for ReoPro, solutions containing visibly opaque particles should NOT be used.

To prepare ReoPro for bolus administration, withdraw the necessary amount of ReoPro for the bolus dose into a syringe. Filter the bolus injection using a sterile, non-pyrogenic, low protein-binding 0.2 or 0.22 micron filter. The prescribing information for ReoPro recommends the use of a Millipore SLGV025LS filter or equivalent.

To prepare ReoPro for continuous infusion, withdraw the necessary amount of ReoPro for the continuous infusion into a syringe. Inject into an appropriate container of sterile 0.9% saline or 5% dextrose and infuse at the calculated rate via a continuous infusion pump. The continuous infusion should be filtered either upon admixture using a sterile, non-pyrogenic, low-protein-binding 0.2 or 0.22 �m syringe filter (Millipore SLGV025LS or equivalent) or upon administration using an in-line, sterile, non-pyrogenic, low-protein-binding 0.2 or 0.22 �m filter (Abbott #4524 or equivalent).

Conversations with various filter manufacturers and/or Centocor and/or laboratory testing at Centocor indicate that the following filters are equivalent to Millipore SLGV025LS arranged by filter membrane composition

1. Cellulose acetate membrane
Satorius SM16534 Syringe filter

2. Hydrophilic polysulfone membrane
Braun PF2000 Syringe filter
Gelman Supor DLL Syringe filter
Q.I. Medical DF022H Syringe filter

3. Hydrophilic polyvinylidene fluoride membrane
Millipore SLGV025LS Syringe filter
Millipore SLGVR25LS Syringe filter
Millipore SLGVR25CS Syringe filter
Millipore SLGVR25KS Syringe filter

Conversations from various filter manufacturers and/or Centocor and/or laboratory testing at Centocor indicate that the following filters (arranged by filter membrane composition) are equivalent to Abbott #4524:

1. Cellulose acetate membrane
Baxter 2C5451 Administration Set
Baxter 2C5453 Administration Set
Baxter 2C5463 Administration Set
Baxter 2C5464 Administration Set
Baxter 2C5551 ContinuFlo�Administration Set
Baxter 2C5552 ContinuFlo�Administration Set
Baxter 2C5557 ContinuFlo�Administration Set
Baxter 2C5662 InterLink� Extension Set
Baxter 2C5664 Extension Set
Baxter 2C6662 Extension Set

2. Hydrophilic polysulfone membrane
Braun FE-2012L Extension Set
Braun SFE-2017SL Extension Set
Braun PFE-2000 Extension Set
Braun PFE-2007 Extension Set
Braun PFE-2007S Extension Set
Imed 9201 Accuset� Administration Set
Imed 9211 Accuset� Administration Set
Imed 9216 Accuset� Administration Set
Imed 9261 Accuset� Administration Set
Imed 9271 Accuset� Administration Set
Imed 9276 Accuset� Administration Set
Imed 2230 Gemini� Administration Set
Imed 2232 Gemini� Administration Set
Imed 2904 Gemini� Administration Set
Ivac C20350 Administration Set

3. Mixed esters of cellulose
Abbott IVEX-HP 4521 Extension Set
Abbott IVEX-HP 4524 Extension Set

4. Polypropylene hollow fiber membrane
McGaw V1782 Administration Set
McGaw V1785 ADDitIV� Primary Administration Set
McGaw V1739 Metriset� Administration Set without Automatic Shut-Off
McGaw V7415 Horizon� Pump ADDitIV� Primary Administration Set
McGaw V7473 Horizon� Pump Metriset
McGaw V7115 Intelligent Pump� Primary Administration Set
McGaw V7135-14 Intelligent Pump� Primary Administration Set
McGaw V7215 Intelligent Pump� ADDitIV� Administration Set
McGaw V7235-14 Intelligent Pump� ADDitIV� Administration Set
McGaw V5412-50 Add-On High Pressure Filter Set with male luer lock
McGaw V5547-50 Add-On High Pressure Filter Set with male adapter
McGaw V5553 Add-On High Pressure Filter Set with flashtube/male adapter
McGaw V5413-50 Add-On Low Pressure Filter Set with male luer lock
McGaw V5418-50 Add-On Low Pressure Filter Set with flashtube/male adapter
McGaw CC3169 Clave� Administration Set for Horizon Pump
McGaw CC1380 Clave� Extension Set
McGaw NF3160 SafeLine� Administration Set for Horizon Pump
McGaw NF1380 SafeLine� Extension Set

5. Positively charged nylon membrane
Pall ELD-96Y Extension Set
Pall ELD-96YS Extension Set
Pall ELD-96LL Extension Set
Pall ELD-96P Extension Set
Pall ELD-96LYL Extension Set
Pall ELD-96LYLS Extension Set
Pall ELD-96NT Extension Set
Pall DU096 Extension Set

Reference: 1. Eli Lilly & Co. ReoPro Summary of Product Characteristics. May 1999.

Question: Posted by Erin Hanson on February 01, 2001 at 11:34:10:

What does the phrase "type b medication" mean? Especially if your pregnant.

Responses: Posted by D.McAuley, pharmacist on February 01, 2001 at 23:54:42:

This is the definition from the FDA.
Category B: Presumed safety based on animal studies, with no controlled studies in pregnant women, or animal studies have shown an adverse effect that was not confirmed in controlled studies in women in the first trimester and there is no evidence of a risk in later trimesters.

Most drugs in this category are considered safe, however their may be exceptions. See the link below:
.Pregnancy data

Question: Posted by D.McAuley on January 28, 2001 at 08:46:40:

What formula is everybody using out there to generate an empiric kel for vanco. Currently at our institution we are switching from: Vanco kel= 0.0016 x Crcl to kel= (0.00083 x crcl) + 0.0044

Responses:  Posted by Tina Mosbacher on March 14, 2001 at 12:35:18:  We use (0.00083 x crcl) + 0.0044